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  1. NFL ownership approves terms of potential new CBA Print By Jeremy Bergman Around The NFL Writer LINK Published: Feb. 20, 2020 at 04:16 p.m. Updated: Feb. 20, 2020 at 04:59 p.m. NFL owners approved the terms of a potential new collective bargaining agreement between the league and the NFL Players Association, the league said in a statement following the owners' meeting in New York on Thursday. The statement read, "Following more than ten months of intensive and thorough negotiations, the NFL Players and clubs have jointly developed a comprehensive set of new and revised terms that will transform the future of the game, provide for players -- past, present, and future -- both on and off the field, and ensure that the NFL's second century is even better and more exciting for the fans. "The membership voted today to accept the negotiated terms on the principal elements of a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. The Players Association would also need to vote to approve the same terms for there to be a new agreement. "Since the clubs and players need to have a system in place and know the rules that they will operate under by next week, the membership also approved moving forward under the final year of the 2011 CBA if the players decide not to approve the negotiated terms. Out of respect for the process and our partners at the NFLPA, we will have no further comment at this time." The players and their representatives will consider the owner-approved CBA proposal in a conference call on Friday, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported. The 32 player reps could vote on the proposed CBA on Friday, and if it passes by a two-thirds majority, the proposal would go to the players for a final vote, where it would need to pass by a simple majority. Ownership convened on Thursday to consider a CBA proposal that among other things would provide the league the option to expand to a 17-game schedule, increase the players' share of total revenue to at least 48 percent and expand the playoff field to 14 teams starting in 2020. The owners' final vote on the proposal was not unanimous, but good enough to approve the new CBA terms, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reported. The CBA, if agreed to by the players, could go into effect in time for the new league year on March 18, potentially altering the salary cap and state of free agency. One potential notable change would be that teams would only be able to use only one tag (franchise or transition) when the tag window opens on Feb. 25. That change could affect the plans of teams like the Cowboys, Buccaneers and Titans, all of whom are thought to be considering placing both tags on impending free agents. The new proposal gives the league the option to expand the regular-season schedule to 17 games, Pelissero and NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. The likeliest time at which that lever would be pulled is in 2022, NFL Network's Michael Silver reported. Adding a game to the regular-season schedule has been a point of contention between the sides. Some players -- including 49ers receiver Emmanuel Sanders, who played 17 regular-season games this year because of a midseason trade -- have already spoken out strongly against it. Aside from the 17-game schedule, the central issue throughout negotiations has been the revenue split. In the new CBA proposal, players would receive an uptick from the 47 percent of total revenue they are currently guaranteed over the full CBA, which was approved in 2011. Pelissero and Rapoport reported that, under the proposed deal, the players' share would increase to 48 percent each year if the league stays at 16 games and to 48.5 percent if or when a 17-game schedule is approved. If the league keeps a 16-game schedule, the players would enjoy a $2.5 billion to $3 billion shift over a 10-year deal, Pelissero and Rapoport reported. If the lever is pulled for a 17-game schedule, the players would reap a potential shift of over $5 billion. The union had long hoped to achieve such an increase without adding games, but the league has pushed all along for a lever that would allow them to add games as part of the next TV deal. In addition to adding a regular-season game and shortening the preseason to three games, as expected, the new proposal would expand the playoff field from 12 teams to 14 teams in 2020. That means only one team per conference would earn a bye. No change has been made to the number of teams eligible to make the postseason since the playoffs were expanded to 12 teams in 1990. Other changes include an increase in the performance bonus pool, an increase in benefits and a larger acclimation period for players to start training camp, Pelissero and Rapoport reported. The current CBA between the NFL and the NFLPA expires following the 2020 season.
  2. The same issue, I don't care about any one team. Houston by default. It was entertaining and I again watched out the corner of my eye. The NFL could learn something from their review booth but nothing will happen. It's nice to see transparency, it helps build trust.
  3. twitter summed it up best:
  4. negotiation flex, period. The kid has talent, starting talent, dunno, he's been gimmicky and that's all I've seen. He hasn't been injured per se but he plays in such a small part of the overall game that I would need to see significant time with him behind a starting OLine. It doesn't help that the Brees situation hasn't fixed itself either and he's literally waiting so like y'all I don't have a problem with him voicing what he believes, you have to at that level. Brees is coming back and from the sounds of it is prepared to take fewer snaps, that's been tried in the past by other teams doing the 2 QB shuffle and usually doesn't give good results overall history has shown.
  5. I watched it out of the periphery as my Barça game was on. The product wasn't bad but wasn't great either. It was entertaining tho but I'll focus more on it next week. It's an early game for my soccer team on Saturday so I'll have the afternoon to peep this more. What I did notice is that I don't miss football anymore. That kinda saddens me as I used to get really down right after the season ended but apparently I'm moving on more than I realized. Nothing, nada, not a pang or thought until I'm sitting here now and kinda going, huh, I'm more excited for the Getafe game than I am for the Saints or football for that matter. My excitement and passion are over there and we're decent this year, not as good as in years past and I'm more knowledgable on the international scene after years of following the game now. Injuries have taken their toll and this is the thinnest Barça bench in years due to it, making for an exciting season as the prior coach was fired last month midseason and replaced with a tactician the player's respect. It's taking some time but it's getting results and ya, you could care less at this point so I'll just walk away.
  6. The final selections have been chosen and in over a week we get the final game of the season. We all wish we were in that number and for many reasons we're not. The 2 teams are very good and I honestly would like to see the Chiefs win. Mahomes is the real deal and we can all see why Payton wanted him, Reid wanted him more. Patrick replacing Brees would have been our Young to Montana continuity, it would have been amazing to watch instead we get to watch him play. I'm kinda glad we're not facing him and that team, they are very good across the board and I'd be very nervous facing him in the Superbowl and I would not feel good about winning. I'd believe we'd do well but the kid just seems to have 'it' and 'it' is ungaugable with a talent who can run, think, perform the QB tasks with all the right touches must less his escapism. He's going to be a nightmare for the 9ers. SF will hold their own but Patrick has his entire team believing, he's faced deficits that would have crushed teams and stormed back time and time again. IMO, it's KC's year and I can't crown em yet, but it's going to be an entertaining game regardless, there is no way I could ever pull for the 9ers and I live in the bay and married into a 49er family across the Bay just on the other side of the Golden Gate. I went to a Barcelona game at their new stadium. It's one of the dumbest stadiums I've ever been to. Well, overpriced crappy food and overpriced drinks to then go sit directly in the sun for houuuuuuuurs. No shade, no cover, just a terrible design, and no parking, literal dusty shell lots that become sand storms upon exit. Just brilliant. Tinfoil hat fun-time discussion with a few Bay Area locals that brought this up to me, I didn't play in it but thought it an interesting listening to : The NFL also has it's a finger in this IMO, they know the Raidahs are now history in Oakland and the 49ers were dangling with no one going to the games. Then coincidentally this year bam, they're relevant and the locals break out their red jerseys again and voila the Bay suddenly cares that their local team is viable again and pays for tickets to the games after being a laughing stock for years with lots of empty seats. A new stadium, other divisional team gone, NFL interest dropping and voila 49ers in the super bowl! We know L.A. is going the way of the flop and the NFL has to do some lifting in a market to make it viable. Some of the locals are skeptical?!? Some are, I personally see a very good 9er team that went toe to toe with us and eeked out a W and a high scoring affair. Interesting thought and concept but too tin foil hatty for my liking but thought would pass along since there is little to no discussions going on and some of you might find it entertaining. I feel bad for my Raider fans, they are in major mourning and there is no coming back now. Family generations are not pleased with the LV locale and some of them will forever bleed their silver and black but others are moving on and not to the 9ers or any team for that matter. It's painful to see as it hits close to home for the many years of Saints uncertainty that we witnessed for way too long. It is what it is. Geaux Chiefs!
  7. Gonna catch it.
  8. And Honey Badger gets HIS! Congrats to the Chiefs and Andy Reid!
  9. I've been away from media for a few weeks and I'm hearing about some scandal in the game of stolen signals? What transpired folks? Surprised no ones discussing this as I'm hearing of firings and other stuff. What's the word?
  10. I've questioned rigging in the past and we've had discussions on this board in the past but it seems the past few years the NFL doesn't seem to care or not what the fan thinks and seems to revel in the smirk of it. This selection is just gobsmacking worthy in its brazen ballsiness to whip 'em out and let folk gasp regardless with a sh*t eating grin and looks you right in the eye and stares you down. It's to their detriment as other franchises get the bad taste in the mouth treatment, they'll see. Sucke being ahead of the proverbial curve consistently yet here were are.
  11. Par for the course and every championship team from college to the pros gets picked clean of talent after the big game. Continuity is a beast and this makes it near impossible to do. It's even harder in college due to the yearly turnover of senior talent as they move onto life and a few to the pros.
  12. Thanks, Z. Line, you were awesome, sorry to see you go and wish you nothing but the best.
  13. Gee and they have the audacity to wonder why people question the integrity of the game. I wonder if he was still the selection if we had made it this far? Classless move NFL, just taunting at this point.
  14. No offense taken in any way shape or form. I don't disagree with you or any of the dissenting opinions, I feel a bit of that too, kind of always will. I just had to listen to this inner voice and let it out. It's a worthy discussion and one I thought would be solidified as ancient by now. No word from Brees or the franchise at this point and I expected a tell by now. So just plodding along wondering still.
  15. oh this is NOT good, no bueno at all.
  16. I'm not saying blow the whole team up, agreed, we have a great young core. The QB is the issue if we keep Brees we have tough decisions to make, if we let him go we have tough decisions to make. Some easier with him here, some not so with him here. I trust them to do the right thing, I just don't think what they will do will get us there if we keep Brees at this point.
  17. That was one helluva game, Burrow cemented his legacy forever and will probably never buy a drink (or cigar) ever in the state of LA! One of the best LSU teams ever, one of the best college football seasons ever. Hats off to the 2020 National Champion LSU Tigers!
  18. I'm not opposed to letting Payton go either, blasphemy, sure, but change is inevitable, it's going to happen sometime in the future. How often do a coach and QB retire together? Please refresh my memory? These guys have been tied at the waist to a level and they've done amazing things and I hope they do more amazing things, but will they do it forever in Black and Gold, no. Payton is a great coach, greatest we've ever had, greatest in the game ever, no. Payton has proved consistently he can field a team, still call brilliant games, and can still overthink himself and lose a game. I believe he's built a successful team year after year with what Loomis has given him. Bress is not the coach, he is a coach on the field and the technician who runs the Payton concept to perfection. Payton and company didn't consistently have our team ready for a few games this year and those mattered, ATL comes to mind and the team didn't look ready for this year's Vikings game. That ATL game mattered greatly in our seeding and cost us a one-week bye, that bye we'll never know what would have happened but my gut tells me we do better with a week off than without one. How didn't Payton and company not adjust to the interior line, why did they put Peat in instead of Edwards who was holding his own prior to the Vikings game? Dunno, just looking at the fine print of the season and looking who's responsible where. I do this all the time as a business owner all the time, it's a mental exercise for me, good, bad, or indifferent. The coaches let the players down, thus the players let the team down. It all starts and stops at the top right, so it's not unacceptable to call out Payton for his failures? These all be it small decisions have big consequences and it's a fine nit-picking point but he's not without any fault in all this. Is it fireable in my opinion, no. Payton's situation is different from the Brees situation and he and Ireland have done an excellent job of finding amazing talent and depth across the board and keeping us viable. Payton can still get it done, for the most part, Brees will further decline, time assures it, when, well we'll further know when we all see the results and collectively agree he's no longer viable. Payton has gotten better with age somewhat. So we either agree to sacrifice another year for another try or finally move on. Many are fine with this current status quo and I'd be lying if I didn't say a bit of that resides in me, but the pioneer in me craves the inevitable change that the winds will bring in time regardless. I'm not into prolonging the inevitable, I prefer to rip that bandaid off and heal with time. Others aren't ready for that pain, I get that, I feel you, I want the prize again too, I'm just not convinced anymore.
  19. I knew as I typed it, it would not be popular and outright dismissed and I'm fine being against the grain here. I'm away on some downtime so I've had time to contemplate it all. I look forward to being wrong, and I hope I am, however, I've learned to listen to my inner voice and this voice tends to lend itself toward the realist. As the token rally ape, I have an idea when and where to throw that hope out there. I keep searching my heart of hearts and the realist comes to the forefront for me and as I look at the picture as it stands currently then I cannot see it happening. It doesn't mean I don't hope to be proven wrong, I look forward to it, but I've been around awhile and see what it takes to get teams to the big dance and I look at where we've been and what we have to do to get back there and between the money and talent, we're at a deficit currently. Along with money and talent is time, it's not on our side, we've sadly wasted some of Brees's best years with no trophies but one to show for it. I'm beyond happy we have one, it keeps us all in a warm glow forever, but it can't keep us warm forever. We're 10 years + past our team. We're serviceable and we're consistent but we're consistently less serviceable year after year in the playoffs we get further and further away. We were just bounced in the wild card round, with a 13-3 record, the game could have gone either way, we didn't get it done. We're all here again, wondering, so I got to wondering, is this our fate now, just wondering? It's a lot greater than wondering for decades why we didn't make the playoffs or the division crown. We just did it 3 times in a row, epic, first in our division to do so in the new alignment. Usually awesome stuff, stuff we used to revel in and just be thankful for, but again, no hardware. Now it's just expected, that's a great mindset change for a fanbase and franchise and one we're all happy to be spoiled in. Our expectations have been raised across the board and so our belief in that we can get another one, it's a legitimate thought and expectation given what Brees and Payton have served us up for 14 years. It takes talent, health, and luck to get there and to win it, and our time and window are close to closed and part of me feel like it's officially closed. We saw a year again of bad slanted officiating against our team, game after game affecting outcomes. Stats even proved this slanted news and there are questions over the last play of the game that the Vikings benefited from. To recap, we have a league showing bias against us, still, using penalties to affect outcomes of our games, a over the age of 40 elite QB playing ageless statistical brilliance, Teddy's situation, loss of coaches, O Line tweaking, injured players to return to full health, very limited cap room, major and minor players across the board to retain, that along the 24th pick. I stack it all up and look at it and I just don't logically see it. Loomis and company have done a herculean effort to keep us consistently where we have been and I hope he can pull it off and do it. The realist in me just can't and doesn't see it, the dreamer in me will hope eternally it somehow happens and will dream of a second Lombardi being hoisted into the air by Drew. The realist in me keeps winning this internal argument and I look forward to reality changing this, I'm just not expecting it at this point.
  20. NFL Memes all over your theory dog!